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Original post by helpintransfer
@SarcAndSpark

I have done GCSEs at one Grammar school and for the Sixth Form at another grammar school.

How it will affect my A Level grades?

Also in a state of confusion, shall I keep on revising or wait for the result and then decide the next plan of action.

Hi

This shouldn't affect you too much- your teachers at your sixth form will give you a grade, and GCSE results (both individual and school) will be used by exam boards to moderate that grade. This is more likely to be at a whole school level, though and shouldn't have too much of an affect on individual cases. I would expect grammar school sixth forms to be quite high performing year on year, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Personally, I would keep revising- firstly to keep yourself ticking over academically, and secondly so if you have to resit you haven't forgotten all the content. The work you do between now and June(ish) might also be useful for your teachers in assessing you, possibly- so I'd do whatever work your teacher are setting and a bit of work outside of lessons, as you would at the start of the year- I wouldn't be in full exam mode all summer
though, that's not sustainable!

I hope this reassures you a bit!
Original post by Makee2992
I wonder how that'd work for me on the old system who's looking to do a private resit many years later?

If you're a private candidate then unfortunately, there's less information about how this will work for you anyway. The system may not work very well for unusual cases like yours (although it may also work fine).

I'd suggest:
-Contact your exam center for advice.
-Contact your exam board for advice.
-Contact anywhere waiting on your results to make them aware of the situation.
-Contact your MP, let them know the problem for students in unusual circumstances, so they can potentially raise this with the relevant people.

I hope this helps a bit.
As a student in my fourth year of high school, I fail to see how it is fair we are going to be given predicted grades. Keeping in mind, we all believed they were only mocks. For many of us, we did not put all of our effort and energy into them as we thought they were only practises. I am fully aware this pandemic was unplanned but i believe that us pupils doing our gcses deserve a chance to complete our exams at a later date such as the end of this year or the start of 2021. I also understand our grades will not only be determined by our mocks but other tests and exams throughout the year. While what is happening cannot be helped, I believe that pupils should have had the slightest say in what is happening to OUR OWN education and OUR futures.
Original post by Treetop321
If only there wasn't the coronavirus. It would all be much simpler, but sadly there is, so let's give those in charge time to work things out.


Yes your right. The pandemic is certainly devastating and it hurts to see so many people in pain hooked to ventilators describing breathing as "shards of glass in lungs". In the wider view, us students probably were their last concern . In light of this, they should have waited to announce the cancellation of exams when they had a more comprehensive set of info to give us, but as you say, all we can do is wait for them to work it out.
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Original post by SarcAndSpark
Hi

This shouldn't affect you too much- your teachers at your sixth form will give you a grade, and GCSE results (both individual and school) will be used by exam boards to moderate that grade. This is more likely to be at a whole school level, though and shouldn't have too much of an affect on individual cases. I would expect grammar school sixth forms to be quite high performing year on year, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Personally, I would keep revising- firstly to keep yourself ticking over academically, and secondly so if you have to resit you haven't forgotten all the content. The work you do between now and June(ish) might also be useful for your teachers in assessing you, possibly- so I'd do whatever work your teacher are setting and a bit of work outside of lessons, as you would at the start of the year- I wouldn't be in full exam mode all summer
though, that's not sustainable!

I hope this reassures you a bit!

does this mean that higher performing schools would be able to give their students higher grades as it's more in line with their standards?
Original post by chloebryson
As a student in my fourth year of high school, I fail to see how it is fair we are going to be given predicted grades. Keeping in mind, we all believed they were only mocks. For many of us, we did not put all of our effort and energy into them as we thought they were only practises. I am fully aware this pandemic was unplanned but i believe that us pupils doing our gcses deserve a chance to complete our exams at a later date such as the end of this year or the start of 2021. I also understand our grades will not only be determined by our mocks but other tests and exams throughout the year. While what is happening cannot be helped, I believe that pupils should have had the slightest say in what is happening to OUR OWN education and OUR futures.

Well, the good news for you is that you will have a chance to resit at some point- this has already been guaranteed by the government, at least in England.

Original post by anonymous_mouse7
Yes your right. The pandemic is certainly devastating and it hurts to see so many people in pain hooked to ventilators describing breathing as "shards of glass in lungs". In the wider view, us students probably were their last concern . In light of this, they should have waited to announce the cancellation of exams when they had a more comprehensive set of info to give us, but as you say, all we can do is wait for them to work it out.

I disagree to some extent- it is very important for schools to know they will not have to co-ordinate hosting exams this year and will help them manage their staffing throughout the summer term.

I think the mistake was Gavin Williamson giving the impression we would get full details of how grades would be awarded on Friday, when clearly this would take some time to work out.
Original post by amanv
does this mean that higher performing schools would be able to give their students higher grades as it's more in line with their standards?

Possibly- there's one explanation of how this could work here: https://ffteducationdatalab.org.uk/2020/03/awarding-grades-in-2020/?utm_source=FFT+Education+Datalab&utm_campaign=36ffe42296-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_20_01_21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_69bf38d335-36ffe42296-204249157

However, even if you you go to a school which doesn't have a history of great results/great progress 8, they will still look at your individual previous performance as well, so this shouldn't impact on you as an individual too much if at all.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
Possibly- there's one explanation of how this could work here: https://ffteducationdatalab.org.uk/2020/03/awarding-grades-in-2020/?utm_source=FFT+Education+Datalab&utm_campaign=36ffe42296-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_20_01_21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_69bf38d335-36ffe42296-204249157

However, even if you you go to a school which doesn't have a history of great results/great progress 8, they will still look at your individual previous performance as well, so this shouldn't impact on you as an individual too much if at all.

How much importance do you think they'll give to the Year 6 SATS for the GCSE students?
Original post by Greywolftwo
Apparently people are sneaking past security guards during the NHS golden hour to continue shopping. How disgusting and selfish do you have to be to do that?

Selfishness and ignorance shall be the death of us!
Original post by relic77
How much importance do you think they'll give to the Year 6 SATS for the GCSE students?

Year 6 SATs are currently used to give you a benchmark/target that the average student would achieve in Y11.

Some schools regularly get their students to do better than this, which gives them a high score in something called "progress 8", which is generally seen as a measure of a school being effective or not.

If a school was awarding everyone way over their benchmarks, and didn't usually have a high progress 8, I'd expect exam boards to be doing some moderation/asking some questions.

But I can't say how much weight it would be given for individual students, as we just don't have the details yet.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
Possibly- there's one explanation of how this could work here: https://ffteducationdatalab.org.uk/2020/03/awarding-grades-in-2020/?utm_source=FFT+Education+Datalab&utm_campaign=36ffe42296-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_20_01_21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_69bf38d335-36ffe42296-204249157

However, even if you you go to a school which doesn't have a history of great results/great progress 8, they will still look at your individual previous performance as well, so this shouldn't impact on you as an individual too much if at all.

I really don't want them to use the school's previous results to get results for this year. It wouldn't work in a lot of cases. Give people what they deserve based on their work, not based on what previous results the school has got.
Original post by Treetop321
I really don't want them to use the school's previous results to get results for this year. It wouldn't work in a lot of cases. Give people what they deserve based on their work, not based on what previous results the school has got.

Obviously we don't have final details yet, but this would be used as a check/moderation by exam boards, to check a school wasn't going wild and giving everyone grades higher than is reasonable. It wouldn't be used as the main determination of your results.

If you go to a school that regularly gets high progress 8, you're at an advantage over people who go to other schools anyway. It's unfair, but this unfairness is always built into the system.
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Original post by SarcAndSpark
Obviously we don't have final details yet, but this would be used as a check/moderation by exam boards, to check a school wasn't going wild and giving everyone grades higher than is reasonable. It wouldn't be used as the main determination of your results.

If you go to a school that regularly gets high progress 8, you're at an advantage over people who go to other schools anyway. It's unfair, but this unfairness is always built into the system.


Is this the only moderation theyd likely be doing and not looking at individual subjects and teachers of each school?
Original post by amanv
Is this the only moderation theyd likely be doing and not looking at individual subjects and teachers of each school?

We don't know yet- however, it wouldn't be practicable (in my opinion) for them to look at every individual. They might take samples of evidence like with coursework, or they may only request this where the data shows teacher assessments don't look accurate.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
We don't know yet- however, it wouldn't be practicable (in my opinion) for them to look at every individual. They might take samples of evidence like with coursework, or they may only request this where the data shows teacher assessments don't look accurate.

Have they said anything about part time students? (Resit candidates?)

In their FAQ they talked about private candidates but not the part time ones so what are they meant to do?
Original post by Evil Homer
Update 20th March 2020: Ofqual update (Source) : Ofqual will develop and set out a process that will provide a calculated grade to each student which reflects their performances as fairly as possible, and will work with the exam boards to ensure this is consistently applied for all students. The exam boards will be asking teachers, who know their students well, to submit their judgement about the grade that they believe the student would have received if exams had gone ahead.

To produce this, teachers will take into account a range of evidence and data including performance on mock exams and non-exam assessment clear guidance on how to do this fairly and robustly this will be provided to schools and colleges. The exam boards will then combine this information with other relevant data, including prior attainment, and use this information to produce a calculated grade for each student, which will be a best assessment of the work they have put in. Ofqual will be discussing with teachers'representative before finalising an approach.

The aim is to provide these calculated grades to students before the end of July. In terms of a permanent record, the grades will be indistinguishable from those provided in other years. We will also aim to ensure that the distribution of grades follows a similar pattern to that in other years, so that this year’s students do not face a systematic disadvantage as a consequence of these extraordinary circumstances.

There will also be an option to sit an exam early in the next academic year for students who wish to and University representatives have confirmed that they expect universities to be flexible and do all they can to support students and ensure they can progress to higher education.




So, what do you make of the news? How are you feeling now a initial plan has been laid out.

Do you think this is the fairest way for students to receive their grades considering whats going on at the moment? Do you trust that you will recieve the grades that you deserve?


I got an A in AS Maths and I can't sit A Level Maths this year. Will AS Levels be used in the grade decision?
Original post by helloman1
I got an A in AS Maths and I can't sit A Level Maths this year. Will AS Levels be used in the grade decision?

AS levels are prior attainment, so will be used.
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Original post by Knortfoxx
AS levels are prior attainment, so will be used.

OMG what if you're a retake..... will what you got last year be used too:frown: (IM DEADD)
@SarcAndSpark
I now have to have to do online learning at home instead of going to college as I used to. I don’t really like change that much but we all have to deal with it. Even though schools and colleges are closed, I will still try and keep motivated to do my school/college work and revision as much as I can. Also, during this free-time, I would like to learn Japanese ready for my planned trip to Japan that I will definitely do in the future, one day when I am older. I also want to post on my GYG more often because I have left that alone for 3 months. I am hoping to go to the Isle of Wight to see some relatives this summer and I am wondering if this a problem to do with the corona virus and I am wondering how it will be affected. I need some advice and information on this. So, I hope you can give me some good bits of advice and information on this. Thanks and Best wishes From Michael.
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Original post by XxxvatxxX
Have they said anything about part time students? (Resit candidates?)

In their FAQ they talked about private candidates but not the part time ones so what are they meant to do?

In what way are you different to a full time student? Surely being part time just means you are sitting less exams, but doesn't affect how your grades are calculated?

Sorry, I don't quite understand the issue?
Original post by helloman1
I got an A in AS Maths and I can't sit A Level Maths this year. Will AS Levels be used in the grade decision?


Original post by Knortfoxx
AS levels are prior attainment, so will be used.


Original post by Sidd1
OMG what if you're a retake..... will what you got last year be used too:frown: (IM DEADD)

I wouldn't expect AS grades/last year's grades to be used, actually (unless you're in a country where everyone sits AS as standard). The process needs to be standardized for everyone to be as fair as it can be. As most students don't sit AS exams or retake, using them would be unfair for some candidates.

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